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MissDudette Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2010
I see, I see. I thought it was a mirror, that's what I get for looking at with my tiny iTouch...

But I bet a mirror might help. My professor has said that if you're drawing something, like an old painting, to take the painting and check against your drawing in a mirror. If the drawing and painting are equal from your eyes, and then equal from the mirror's eyes, you're pretty much set for life! :)
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Slinky3d Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2010  Student Filmographer
yeah i understant :D
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Done for Intro to Animation. First time doing a flight cycle.

No, the owl isn't because of Guardians of Ga'hoole, I just like barn owl faces.

Materials: col-erase pencil

-Wyna
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SpencerPenfold Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2010
How many frames were used to create this and how long did it take you to do. It's awsome by the way
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wynahiros Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2010
Thanks!

15 or 16? I have the pile put away, so I'm going off memory here.

It took me maybe 7 hrs or so but I was filming/checking it at different stages a lot.
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SpencerPenfold Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2010
sorry to bother you again, but is that 16 frames per second or altogether. Thank You. Awsome work
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wynahiros Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2010
The base number of pages drawn, not what was shot finally. I think it was mostly twos with some ones in there for the shooting.
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MissDudette Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2010
@00:10Very nice anatomy, again! (for what I know of birds, anywho)

The movement is incredibly fluid, it's not just wings moving here, the whole bird is moving subtley here. Impressive!

How did you animate this though?
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wynahiros Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2010
@00:10Thank you very much but I'm not sure I understand your last question exactly?

(With pencil, animation paper and an animation desk?)
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MissDudette Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2010
@00:10Ack, I was just wondering how you animated it. Just sat and drew the same owl on a gazzillion pages? And then scanned, Photoshopped and video-edited?

What on earth is an animation desk?
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wynahiros Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2010
@00:10OH okay, I gotcha. Sorry for the confusion. Yes, I drew the owl over and over on different pages. Then I put one page at a time under a camera pointing downwards, took a shot of it, then replaced that paper with the next one, rinse and repeat until I filmed all pages. Flipbook (program) puts them all together into a .mov

(No photoshop on this one or other video editing)

Here's generally what an animation desk looks like:

[link]

Hope that helps!
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MissDudette Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2010
@00:10I see, I see. I've had an animation running in my head for some time now, so I wanted to ask an animator who's tried it out before I do it. :)

And that is one neat desk! Don't you just love it when random wood comes together? XD But why do you use the desk? Does the mirror help keep each drawing the same? (is told that by her drawing professor).
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wynahiros Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2010
The lab ones we have don't have a mirror, it's just a plastic disc with pegs and a light shining through.

I don't know that about a mirror, I haven't heard that on this end.
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MissDudette Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2010
I see, I see. I thought it was a mirror, that's what I get for looking at with my tiny iTouch...

But I bet a mirror might help. My professor has said that if you're drawing something, like an old painting, to take the painting and check against your drawing in a mirror. If the drawing and painting are equal from your eyes, and then equal from the mirror's eyes, you're pretty much set for life! :)
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wunleebuxton Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
@00:10Just about the bird's anatomy, those are ENORMOUS wings for the size of the bird.
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Slinky3d Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2010  Student Filmographer
@00:08I love it, but I think that itcan be better. OK, i know, you,re MUCH MORE better than me in animal animation, but I found an awesome lecture right here 2 weeks ago: [link]

On your animation, the UP and DOWN frames seem to me the same, no? The UP should have less frames than the down. :) Well, look at that Lecture, it's very good! And good animation, tought. Good work. :)
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neosuicune Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2010
@00:08Yes, I agree regarding the up and down time. Pulling the wings up tends to hamper the bird's speed and lift slightly (just like a swimmer bringing the arm forward) so they make the movement as quick as possible, putting more time and effort into the downward stroke. Of course, it's been several years since my animation class, and I definitely aint no Disney animator. But I must say that I LURV LURV LURV how fluid the animation is, and the anatomy is awesome!
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Slinky3d Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2010  Student Filmographer
yeah i understant :D
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wynahiros Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2010
@00:08I think there are actually more UP frames on this one than DOWN, so I think I got them reversed, owch.

That link is amazing. I just started reading it now and it's looking really helpful. (haha, I wish I saw this before I attempted the wing cycle, I think it would have made life ten times easier).

Thank you!
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Slinky3d Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2010  Student Filmographer
@00:08you're welcome :) This animator is very good and he have some others lectures. :)

Have a nice day. :)
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dev-chieftain Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2010
@00:10Since the wings are just flapping up and down and not giving the slight rotation at the shoulders that occurs when a bird is flying, this one feels to me like it could use a little more work. From this particular angle it would be very clear that the wings are flapping in a slightly circular motion, while from the front it might seem a little bit more like the wings just go up and down.

It's good though, I like the follow through on this and the others where stray 'pieces' move with the motion (such as the bird's tail, the quadruped's beard, etc.)
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wynahiros Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2010
@00:10Thank you very much for the crit!

Yeah, I think I see what you mean. (so a slight shoulder rotation kind of like a swimmer or no?)
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dev-chieftain Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2010
@00:10I think a slight rotation would be better than a dramatic one for just flying along; a really obvious rotation might be present when landing since the bird is essentially braking with its wings and little else.

Glad to be of service! I am a huge fan of animation and hope to see you doing more. :)
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wynahiros Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2010
I'll definitely have to keep that in mind the next time a flight animation comes up! Just got linked a great lecture on the subject too, so hopefully I could incorporate those on another go sometime.

We'll see, it depends on time and classes currently. Thank you!
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fatguy88 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
it would be funny if the bird hit a window
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SpyderV Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2010
@00:10That's really nice!
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dandypandy12 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
@00:10mmm... me like

its awsome! XD and so smooth!
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EternaLegend Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2010
@00:10Wooow! The movements are so smooth and fluid-like!
Beautiful animation work here!
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